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Which gun should i get? A Remington 887 or a Stoeger model 2000.

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 Posted 12/30/2011 8:00:01 PM

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I am planning on buying one of these two guns but i'm not sure which would be better. The Remington 887 can take 3 1/2's and is a pump. The Stoeger 2000 can shoot 3's and is semi auto which would be best for me to get?
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 Posted 12/31/2011 12:30:04 PM

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I would avoid both of those models they are both known for having problems, I would save up for a Beretta 3901 or look at the Stoeger 3500 or even the Mossberg 930 in an Auto, and for a Pump I would look for a good used Wingmaster or an Express. There is nothing worst than buying a new gun only to find out you got a lemon.

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 Posted 12/31/2011 4:03:52 PM

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I say remington 887. Ive had it for awhile and hasent had a problem yet. Its a ridiculously durable gun..been through EVERYTHING you can throw at it. and killed many ducks and way more to come. Probably one of the best buys ive ever had. Yes there is some issues with some of the guns, but almost every gun does, and the problem is an easy fix (ive never had a problem). Even the almighty Benelli (personally dislike) has had serious problems. Remington and mossberg make great guns and they will last you for a long time and for a good price. Ive owned just about everything and i personally love my Remington 887. As for the stoeger, i would say no to that. Has way more problems and not really that durable for duck hunting. Where as the 887 is the ultimate weather resistant gun. Ive dropped it in the water, took it out and killed some woodies right after. Now i am speaking off of my own knowledge and personal experiences with weapons and other friends opinions. But i can firmly say the 887 is one of the best guns ive ever had and will have. Good shootin!

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 Posted 12/31/2011 4:44:35 PM

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I think Kurt gave you solid advice, as both those guns are known lemons (google owner reviews to see for yourself). Save up and get something decent and you will NEVER regret it!

"When you hear my third shot.....that's your signal to take 'em."
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 Posted 12/31/2011 5:24:31 PM

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I agree with a couple earlier posts.  The Stoeger 2000 has issues.  Two of my hunting buddies have the 2000.  From what they tell me, there is a pin in the receiver that has a tendency to fall out.  One guy already lost his pin, and is back using his older gun.  The other fella super glued his in, and seems to be ok for now (I personally would not suggest using super glue on a receiver, but that's just me).  When I was looking into getting a good, inexpensive auto I looked at a bunch, and bought a Berreta 3901.  The manual says to break it in with fifty rounds, the gun seems to be more fluid as it breaks in.  I kinda liked that, gets better with age type of thinking.  I have run about 600 rounds of low brass thru mine.  As well as about 200 rounds of high brass, and probably 150 rounds of steel high brass.  Not a single issue, no misfires, no ejection problems, no feed issues.  Cycles everything smoothly.  I've used it to kill Pheasant and Chukkars this fall, and Ducks n Geese this winter.  Its been wet, muddy, had goldenrod, and field dust in it, and no issues.  Being a military vet, I am kinda anal bout my guns.  I completely strip it down after every time out, all pieces look as good now as they did when I first bought it.  The gun says made in USA, but the barrel has Made in Turkey, stamped on the top.  Either way, for less than 600 bucks for a 12 gauge, 3" auto, I am very pleased.


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 Posted 1/3/2012 12:45:46 PM

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Can't intelligently speak about the 887 but I can about the M2000 and it is a spectacular gun.  Break it in and clean it according to the manual and it will serve you great.  I put a dot of locktite on the shell extractor screw just to make sure that it never backs out.  My friends who have the same gun have not and haven't had an issue.  I also read that the M2000 has had less failures as a precentage of guns sold than the Benelli Super Black Eagle II.  I can't find the source so take that with a grain of salt.
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 Posted 1/19/2012 9:52:17 AM

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I agree with Kurt, if you want a pump get you a solid 870 Express.  The Beretta 3901 is a great semi and even though it comes in a synthetic black it can easily be wrapped.  New to the forum and relatively new to waterfowl, but done my fair share of upland game shooting (Dove primarily).  Can't go wrong with a Remington for sure.

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 Posted 1/19/2012 10:10:22 AM

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I bought an M3500 this year and I love it.  The only failure was my fault (did a compression check and didn't slam the bolt home). One negative, is that it isn't as easy to break down as my 870.  I wanted a semi auto that could shoot just about everything you can in 12 gauge and this fit the bill and the budget.  It is only a bit more than a M2000 and I think worthy of a look if you are looking for a gun in that price range.


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 Posted 1/23/2012 10:52:02 PM

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Both great guns but I would recommend the Stoeger 3500 over both of them. I just got my 3500 in August of 2011 and haven't put it down since. It probably took me about 100 shots to break it in but now it will shoot anything you can put in it. I've shot 2 3/4in 1oz dove loads with no cycling problems and then gone out the next morning and shot 3 1/2in 1 3/8oz goose loads with no cycling problems. It has cycled in temperatures ranging from 90*F all the way down to 15*F with no hang ups. After you get it broke in it's gonna go boom, boom, boom every time. Plus it comes with shims to adjust the stock, 5 different choke tubes, and it's taped and comes with a weaver style scope mounting base. With all those goodies it makes this a hard deal to pass up.
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 Posted 1/28/2012 7:43:07 PM

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I just got my 887 back from Remington.

(needed to have a new bolt and trigger assembly.

Had cycling issues and firing pin not hitting the primer).

All worked well today.

" God and Guns"
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